Middle East crisis tests Trump's 'art of the deal'

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🗓️ 17 June 2025

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President Trump is calling for a "real end" to the escalating conflict between Israel and Iran. Vali Nasr, a professor of Middle East studies and international affairs at Johns Hopkins University, joins us to talk about how Trump is navigating the crisis. And, the Trump administration's immigration raids have targeted farm workers. California farmer Lisa Tate shares the impact of those raids on the farm workforce. Then, Tuesday marks 10 years since a white supremacist opened fire at Mother Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina, killing nine parishioners. Marcus Amaker, the first poet laureate of Charleston, reflects on the past decade.

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0:30.7	Israel's airstrikes in Iran continue, as President Trump says he wants a complete end to the conflict and Iran's nuclear program.
0:50.5	It's Tuesday, June 17th, and this is here and now anytime from NPR and WBWR Boston.
0:57.4	I'm Shiko Theuri.
1:02.8	Today on the show, the Trump administration has been flip-flopping on immigration enforcement guidance.
1:08.6	We hear how this is impacting a farm in California.
1:11.9	We go year-round, and so I need a workforce that can be here year after year after year.
1:19.5	And today marks 10 years since one of our country's most horrific hate crimes
1:24.3	took the lives of nine black worshippers in Charleston, South Carolina.
1:28.5	The church was violated. The family was violated. The community was violated.
1:34.8	But first, Iran and Israel launched fresh strikes as they entered a fifth day of conflict.
1:42.2	Israel claims that it killed another senior Iranian military official
1:45.9	in the airstrikes. President Trump told reporters that he was working on, quote, an end,
1:51.0	a real end, not a ceasefire. For some analysis, Lisa Mullins spoke to Valli Nasser. He's a professor
1:57.7	of Middle East Studies and International Affairs at Johns Hopkins.
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