Welcome to the Psychology Podcast, where we give you insights into the mind, brain, behavior, and creativity.

I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, and in each episode I have a conversation with a guest

who will stimulate your mind and give you a greater understanding of yourself, others,

and the world we live in.

Hopefully we'll also provide a glimpse into human possibility.

Thanks for listening and on the podcast. Dr. Steiger is a professor of

psychology and the founding director of the Center for Meaning and Purpose at Colorado State University.

He studies the link between Meaning and Life and Well Being, as well as the psychological predictors

of physical health and health risk behaviors and the facilitators and benefits of engaging in meaningful work.

Michael really an honor to talk with you today.

Thank you. I'm excited to be here and it's an honor for me to be invited to talk with you.

Oh, that was very kind of you to say.

So I'm a, you know, a great admirer of your work

and I consider your work deeply meaningful.

And I know, I'm not just saying that to be like,

to come with some corny, you know, thing, you know, comment there like seriously your work is has a lot of meaning in itself because what is, you know, you really cut at the core of human existence with your research.

I mean, you don't like mess around with like, no offense like I'm thinking of like

visual cognition researchers or like those who study like, you you know the fourth cortex of the visual

neuron but you know that's important work for sure but I'm saying you know in

terms of what really resonates right with like what it means to be alive.

Your work really cuts to the core of that right? Well it's really nice to be to say and

I mean I think you know that V4 cortex of you know that the V4 cortex of that visual processing area probably is the one that

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