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Michael Spence on Growth

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🗓️ 25 January 2010

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Nobel Laureate Michael Spence of Stanford University's Hoover Institution and the Commission on Growth and Development talks with EconTalk host Russ Roberts about the determinants of economic growth. Spence discusses the findings of the Commission's recent report and how it compares to earlier attempts to uncover the sources of growth and the lack of growth such as the Washington Consensus. Spence makes the case for government provision of infrastructure including education and the problems of corruption and governance. The conversation closes with a look at Spence's career and the lessons of that experience.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Econ Talk, part of the Library of Economics and Liberty. I'm your host Russ Roberts

0:13.9

of George Mason University and Stanford University's Hoover Institution. Our website is econtalk.org

0:21.2

where you can subscribe, find other episodes, comment on this podcast, and find links to

0:26.5

another information related to today's conversation. Our email address is mailadicontalk.org. We'd

0:33.6

love to hear from you.

0:36.7

Today is January 18th, 2010, and my guest is Michael Spence, a senior fellow at Stanford

0:44.8

University's Hoover Institution, the chair of the Commission on Growth and Development,

0:49.6

and the 2001 winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics. Mike, welcome to Econ Talk.

0:54.3

I'm delighted to be with you, Russ.

0:56.1

I want to start with your work on the Commission of Growth and Development. It started in 2006. Give us a

1:04.1

little background to start with on what its mission was and how it's unfolded.

1:12.0

Well, I think the mission had really two parts. One was the feeling on the part of the people

1:16.9

who eventually became part of the Commission that the importance of growth has been

1:21.9

an enabler of the achievement of a number of objectives, poverty reduction, and a lot of the

1:28.0

NBG's had been sort of law. People were focusing on trying to solve important problems that people

1:38.0

care about in the developing world, but many of them are pretty difficult to deal with without the

1:44.0

tailwind of growth behind you. So that was one of the, it was never meant to be negative with

1:50.0

respect who had been very important achievements that had been made in the areas of education,

1:55.2

health, and other things. So I think of it as complementary to that. The other thing is that,

2:00.5

you know, since the Washington consensus which came together in the around 1990s, maybe 1990s,

2:07.6

there's been a lot of experience accumulated in the developing world. NBG had accelerated,

2:14.0

China had been accelerated earlier and been going very rapidly, and growth had turned up in a

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