Hey, everybody. This is Richard Ditch, and welcome to the sports media podcast. My producer is Patrick

Anthony and Sean Cherry. Two guests this week, two really bright, thoughtful guys.

If you're here in sports media, you certainly read and appreciate their work, I think.

First up, is Michael Lee.

He's a senior NBA writer for The Athletic.

He does just phenomenal, interesting work at our place.

And prior to that, was at Yahoo.

And, again, I think all NBA fans are familiar with Michael Lee.

He is followed by the Washington Post writer Robert Klemko, who is an investigative reporter

in the sports department.

But over the last couple of months, it's been assigned to news and has been doing some

just really, really fascinating work and reporting, including covered the Trump rally in Tulsa.

So with Michael,

we get into a conversation of how he's processed the last couple weeks in America, sort of what it says about the moment. The NBA has returned to play plans, whether it can work, really interesting

stuff about how the NBA is going to approach writers being

inside the bubble and what access they might have.

And then just, you know, what NBA activism may be over the next couple of months and

how that will be covered by all entities, including the TV networks.

Robert Klemko comes on to discuss his move from sports to news and covering politics versus sports

and interviewing people around the country and how they react to him when he identifies

himself as a Washington Post reporter.

Roberts had some, I mean, just some horrific things sort of sent to him in his social media mentions.

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