Welcome to ID the Future, a podcast about intelligent design and evolution. Hello, I'm Andrew McDermott.

Today I'm with Michael Newton-Kees, author of the new book Unbelievable,

Seven Myths about the History and future of science and religion.

It's published by ISI books.

Kees is a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute and a former Fulbright scholar.

After earning a PhD in the history of Science from the University of Oklahoma, he won research grants from the National Science Foundation and the American Council of Learn Societies.

Keys currently serves as lecturer in the History and Philosophy of Science at

Biola University and is on the board of directors of Rastio Christie, an alliance

of apologetics clubs on college campuses.

Welcome back, Mike.

Thank you, Andrew. It's good to be back for this last, well at least last for the time

being episode. Yeah. Well, you've released a book recently that debunked seven of the most popular and pernicious myths about science and religion.

In previous episodes you've helped show that these myths came from strange places and that they still persist in a lot of ways and of course what

we can do about it.

Today we're looking at chapter 10 of your book on Johannes Kepler, whom one biographer calls, quote,

not a mystic, as is often claimed,

but rather a man of his age,

devout and rational at the same time, unquote.

The topic of this episode has Christian theology successfully guided scientific

discovery. Well Mike, much of your book is about defeating misconceptions concerning science and religion. Do you devote space to

telling the positive story of how Christianity proved friendly to the rise of

modern science? I do and you know the first instance of this that I cite in a case study on Johannes Kepler is actually how Kepler helped pioneer science fiction as a genre, although it wasn't really widely recognized as a genre

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