Welcome to the Eric Matexis Show with your host, Eric Matexis.

Hey there folks, if you know me at all, you know that I love talking about faith and science.

You probably know that my new book is atheism dead, deals with a lot of faith and science.

It's nothing less than astonishing.

When you realize that the idea most of us have heard in our lifetimes that faith and science are at odds,

is not even slightly true.

It is in fact the opposite.

It's hard for us to shift our paradigms, but we need to, as I said, I write about it a lot in my new book.

But a friend, Michael Gillen, we've had him on before, has a new book out on the very same subject called believing is seeing.

He's a real scientist.

Michael Gillen, welcome.

Hey Eric, it's so good to see you again my brother.

Looking forward to our conversation.

It's great. It's great to see you and to talk to you.

I love talking about all this stuff, especially with somebody who knows about it the way you do.

You really came to faith later in life, you had been hostile to faith, and now you're writing books explaining to people that faith and science are friends and that this is a lie that they're at odds.

In the book you talk about how the latest discoveries in neuroscience, physics, astronomy, mathematics point to faith in many ways.

Talk about that because, I mean, what do you mean when you say neuroscience?

I'm not even sure, do I know what neuroscience is?

Science of the brain.

It's a study of the brain.

And I remember when I was at ABC News, I did a story on the Harvard Brain Bank, which is the largest repository of human brains.

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