Michael Gayed, Toroso Investments - I Don’t Know The Exact Mile Marker I Might Crash My Car, But I Do Know The Conditions That Favor The Accident | #284

The Meb Faber Show - Better Investing

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Business, Investing, Management

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🗓️ 1 February 2021

⏱️ 60 minutes

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In episode 284, we welcome our guest, Michael Gayed, a Portfolio Manager at Toroso Investments, where he runs two tactical, risk-on, risk-off strategies. He’s also the publisher of the Lead-Lag Report. In today’s episode we’re talking about how to use indicators to decide when to go risk-on, risk-off. Michael explains how he came to focus on risk management early in his career and has kept that mentality since. He walks us through how he uses the utilities sector as an indicator for when volatility is going to spike, which worked well in 2020, helping him return over 70% in his ATAC fund. Then he takes us through his award winning paper on lumber and gold, two seemingly uncorrelated commodities that actually work well together to serve as a strong indicator for inflationary or deflationary conditions. As we wind down, he explains how often he assesses these signals and what they are showing as we start 2021. Please enjoy this episode with Toroso Investment’s Michael Gayed. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Medfavor Show, where the focus is on helping you grow and preserve your wealth.
0:11.0	Join us as we discuss the craft of investing and
0:13.5	uncover new and profitable ideas all to help you grow wealthier and wiser.
0:17.2	Better investing starts here.
0:18.8	Met Faber is the co-founder and chief investment officer at Cambria Investment Management.
0:23.3	Did it industry regulations, he will not discuss any of Cambry's funds on this podcast.
0:27.2	All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not reflect the opinion
0:31.1	of Cambria Investment Management or its affiliates.
0:33.4	For more information, visit Cambria Investments.com.
0:35.6	Hey friends, awesome show today.
0:41.6	Our guest is a portfolio manager at
0:43.3	Taroso Investments where he runs two tactical risk on risk off strategies he's also
0:48.8	the publisher of the lead lag report in today's, we're talking about how to use indicators
0:53.9	for tactical allocations.
0:56.0	Our guest explains how he came to focus on the risk management
0:58.6	early in his career and has kept that mentality ever since.
1:01.6	He walks us through how he uses utility sector as an indicator for when
1:04.8	volatility is going to spike which worked well in 2020 helping him return over
1:08.9	70% in this strategy. Then he takes us through his award-winning paper on lumber and gold, two seemingly
1:15.6	uncorrelated commodities that actually work well together to serve as a strong indicator for
1:20.4	inflationary or deflationary conditions.
1:23.0	As we wind down, he explains how often he assesses these signals
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