Gordon. How are you, sir? Very well. How are you? Good. Welcome to Outwood Unleashed.

Thanks very much for having me. My pleasure. Whereabouts in Ireland are you?

I'm on the west coast by the seaside. Sounds lovely. It's very warm. As you can probably see, I'm melting.

Yep. Having the same issue in England. So I'm glad we can both share that together.

We'll see who's shiniest by the end of this discussion. I think I might, I think I might be pipped on that. We'll see.

Tell us about those conspiracy guys. It's a podcast that's been running since 2014.

And we just passed 50 million career downloads over many different platforms since we started. So it's going quite well.

We've got, you know, average about maybe four or five, six hours per episode, their comedy history,

and a little bit of, you know, pop culture, a little bit of conspiracy theory, true crime.

I like to, I don't know, look a little bit deeper than the surface level conspiracy people

when they're talking about like a certain topic or whatever. We go back into the books. We go back into the history.

And it's like a re-examination of what we already know and push around that accepted narrative of ensue.

It's cool crack. It's not so serious. How are you from swearing on this, by the way? I don't want you to get bad.

You've just, you've just nuked the channel. We're all on YouTube.

Yeah. It's over now. Yeah. So thank you.

Thank you.

Well, I mean, it'd be interesting to get your description of your perspective on conspiracy theories because it's, I suppose, you know,

the perfectly legitimate as fodder for covering in any way you like with humor, with scrutiny.

But I suppose there's a line between sort of making commentary on conspiracy theories and promoting conspiracy theories.

So I mean, how do you, do you feel you maintain a level of objectivity or is it a case of anything goes or how do you, what the angle you come in up on conspiracy theories?

Well, that's the thing, like now conspiracy theory is you see, you know, right wing usually attached to it.

You see fair right. You see fringe lunatic.

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