Welcome to the Eric Metaxa show.

Have you heard that some people have a nose for news?

Well, Eric has a nose for everything.

That's why this is called The Show About Everything.

Now welcome your host who definitely passes the smell test, Eric Mattaxas.

Hey there, folks. Welcome to the show. It's the Eric Mataxis show. I play the role of Eric Mataxis. And this, in this show, which is nonfiction,

I interview people, usually on subjects that are close to my heart or that I think are important.

Today, I'm talking to filmmaker Michael Pack, who's been on this show before, who is

responsible for a brilliant documentary called Created Equal Clarence Thomas in his own words

and other things.

And also Michael's son, Thomas, Pack, we are going to talk about something that is as close to my heart as anything could be.

It's the idea of bringing, let's call them, conservative values, although that's just a fancy way of saying truth and reality, into media.

It is crucial.

People of faith, people of Christian values have dropped the ball on this for, I don't know,

about 100 years roughly.

And so whenever somebody is getting into this game, I don't know, about 100 years roughly. And so whenever somebody is getting

into this game, I want to do everything I can to get to know them and to bring them to you,

the audience of this program. So Michael Pack and Thomas Pack, welcome and thank you for being with us

today. Thank you for having us on, Eric. It's a pleasure to be back on your

show. Well, as you know, Michael, I am, you know, hot to trot on the subject of what I just mentioned.

Now, you just wrote an article at Real Clear Politics. I want to talk to you about that because you

sort of summarize what I was just getting at or you

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