The Athletic.

So after a second successive defeat to a side struggling at the wrong end of the table,

what is going wrong at Liverpool?

Elsewhere, we'll hear how Manchester United are weighing up changes to their goalkeeping department

and the future of David DeHaier.

David Ornstein will join us as well to tell us about the MLS club who are confident

of signing Lionel Messie.

I'm Mark Chapman, this is the athletic football pod. It's somewhat outnumbered. Still pulls it back though for Bamford.

And in Somerville!

On the eve of his 21st birthday, what a present for Crescenio Somerville.

What a present for Leagues United.

It could be the winner at Anfield that gets him out of the bottom three

Let's start with Liverpool then on the pod beaten two on at home by Leeds James

Pierce our Liverpool writer was there we're talking to him 10 minutes before he goes to see his dentist.

Which do you think he's going to be more painful?

I think it's definitely easier to numb the pain at the dentist and numb the pain watching

Liverpool at the minute. It's, it's been a tough few weeks I mean just you know crazy really to go from to go from the higher beat in Manchester City and all that talk about will this finally kickstart a flagging season to back to back defeat to two teams battle in relegation?

We can't go over the same issues can we? We can't go over midfield or recruitment or whether players are tired or whether

there is a sort of psychological come down on going for the four trophies last year but only

coming away with the lead cup and the FAA cup and I'd sort of say only in inverted

commas or can we go over all that again? Well yeah without wanting to sound like a broken record, I think you probably have to because all those factors you mentioned there, you know, I think have all contributed to the situation Liverpool are in where, you know know they've got 16 points out of 36 which is the same record they had after 12 games under Roy Hodgson in 2010-11

you know which you know when you when you think back to to that point you know people were

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