Meta vs Apple, AirPods
9to5Mac Daily
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🗓️ 18 July 2025
⏱️ 8 minutes
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Stories discussed in this episode:
- CIRP: AirPods regain market share, but overall growth stalls
- Meta just poached two more AI researchers from Apple
- Apple sues Jon Prosser for his iOS 26 YouTube leaks
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to 95 Mac Daily for Friday, July 18, 2025. |
| 0:06.8 | I'm your host, Chance Miller. |
| 0:09.4 | We are sponsored this week by OnePassword. |
| 0:13.6 | Leading off today, just days after hiring Ruming Peng, who led Apple's foundation models team in its its AI division, Meta is reuniting him with |
| 0:23.3 | two of his former colleagues from Apple. As reported by Bloomberg, Mark Lee and Tom Gunter, |
| 0:30.1 | both key members of Apple's Foundation Models Group, are also joining Meta's Super Intelligence Lab |
| 0:36.2 | team. |
| 0:42.9 | Mark Lee was known as Pange's first hire at Apple, while Gunter, who was a distinguished engineer at the company, was regarded as one of the group's most senior employees. |
| 0:49.4 | Lee has reportedly already left Apple and started at Meta, while Gunter departed last month, and |
| 0:54.8 | briefly joined another AI startup before deciding to head to Meta instead. The new hires |
| 1:01.3 | follow the high-profile departure of Rooming Peng, the former head of large language models at Apple, |
| 1:07.3 | who joined Meta as part of a compensation package worth more than $200 million. |
| 1:13.1 | At the time, Bloomberg reported that other senior members of Apple's AI team could soon follow. |
| 1:20.0 | Mark Zuckerberg recently declared that AI is met as top priority, and these moves underscore just |
| 1:26.1 | how aggressive it is in its recruitment push. |
| 1:29.4 | The company has been steadily pulling top AI talent from direct competitors like OpenAI and |
| 1:35.7 | Google, but it also now appears to be capitalizing on Apple's internal drama, as Apple still |
| 1:42.0 | debates on whether to stick with its own in-house models or adopt third-party options for Siri, like OpenAI and Anthropic. |
| 1:51.3 | Meanwhile, because of this and the departures, morale across Apple's AI teams is reportedly slipping, as engineers feel scapegoated for the recent high-profile failures of Apple |
| 2:03.2 | intelligence. Meta is seizing this moment, and it's unlikely that these will be the last Apple |
| 2:09.4 | engineers to depart for Facebook. In other news today, a new report from researchers at Consumer Intelligence Research Partners, |
| 2:19.6 | or SERP, shows that while AirPods remain the most popular wireless earbuds among iPhone users, |
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