You're listening to Episode 238 of TV's top five, the Hollywood Reporter's TV podcast. I'm Leslie Goldberg, the West Coast TV editor here, and I'm joined as usual by the great Dan Feinberg, the Hollywood Reporter's Chief, TV critic. How's it going, Chief? Oh, it goes. You getting ready for a little bit of downtime next week, Leslie? Hell yeah, I have, I took the entire week off.

My wife and I are hosting Thanksgiving for, I think, it's 15 people.

So very excited, a little stressed out to see if we can accommodate 15 people in our house.

But yeah, I'm excited.

Really looking forward to the downtime.

What about you, Dan?

Just going to go up to Santa Barbara, see my parents.

And I believe we are actually going to go up to Santa Barbara, see my parents, and I believe

we are actually going to a restaurant for Thanksgiving to do a restaurant-y-type Thanksgiving,

which will at least somewhat reduce the chaos, which is sometimes a nice thing to do. That's good.

That sounds really, really lovely. Well, this is a good transition for us to say that we will be off.

TV's Top 5 will be off next week. Our next episode will be December 1st. Man, I can't

believe the holidays are here already, but very exciting. Time goes weird in general, and time

also goes weird because all of the news of the past week has been productions ramping up and all

of that, so it feels a little bit

like it's, I don't know, mid-July. I don't know when it feels like it is, but it definitely

doesn't feel like it's the end of the year because this is normally the time at which, as we

may have mentioned in recent weeks, productions are shutting down for Thanksgiving and Christmas,

but instead, well, it's just been a strange year in Hollywood.

Yeah, perfectly stated. We'll talk much more about the strange year in Hollywood coming up in our episode.

This week we're going to be joined by BFF of the 5, Alan Seppenwall, who's going to talk about his upcoming book, the oral history of the OC.

I'm so tempted every time we say the

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