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The Great Women Artists

Meret Oppenheim as told by Lisa Wenger

The Great Women Artists

Katy Hessel

Arts

4.8877 Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

I am so excited to say that my guest on the GWA podcast is the renowned psychologist Lisa Wenger, who is also – very excitingly – the niece of the artist we are going to be discussing today: Meret Oppeheim! Having collected and copied thousands of letters, notes, and documents from acquaintances of the German-Swiss artist – famed for her paintings, sculptures, collages, and more, who was commonly associated with the Surrealists – Wenger is something of a world expert on her aunt. The author and co-author of numerous books, including the award-winning “do not wrap words in poisonous letters” as well as “Meret Oppenheim - My Album” - Wenger is also responsible for updating the catalogue raisonne of her aunt, and co-running the estate, which has of late seen Oppenheim have major retrospectives at the Museum of Modern Art, Kunstmuseum Bern, and others that has put the trailblazing artist firmly in the spotlight. Born in 1913 in Berlin, at the inception of the first world war, Oppenheim was raised with her maternal grandmother in Switzerland. An interest in Jung as a teenager led to her life-long fascination with dreams, informing her art practice and involvement with the surrealists, who she met in Paris after venturing there aged 18 in the 1930s. Here, she created some of her most iconic artworks, such as the fur-lined teacup and saucer which she called Object (1936), that attracts as it does repulses and still divides opinion today, and ‘my nurse’, a pair of white high-heeled shoes turned upside-down to evoke a chicken on a tray, which plays with gender stereotypes, femininity and the domestic sphere. But, with the outbreak of the second world war, it was back to Switzerland, which proved to be a very different environment to Paris… But, never not creating, Oppenheim made dream-like paintings, sculptures, and collages that reflected her dreams, as well as a woman stifled by her lack of freedom. Over the decades, Oppenheim built up a output that would become some of the most pioneering in Europe, after all, she said: “nobody will give you freedom, you have to take it” Today, I meet Lisa in Casa Constanza, in Carona, surrounded by Meret’s possessions and spirit - and ahead of the new exhibition at Hauser & Wirth (4 June – 19 July 2025). Let's find out more! https://www.hauserwirth.com/hauser-wirth-exhibitions/meret-oppenheim/ -- THIS EPISODE IS GENEROUSLY SUPPORTED BY THE LEVETT COLLECTION: https://www.famm.com/en/ https://www.instagram.com/famm_mougins // https://www.merrellpublishers.com/9781858947037 Follow us: Katy Hessel: @thegreatwomenartists / @katy.hessel Sound editing by Mikaela Carmichael Music by Ben Wetherfield

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome back to season 13 of the Great Women Artist podcast. I am so excited to be sharing this upcoming season with you and to say that this series is again supported by the Levitt Collection, a vast and varied art collection of which a major and ever-increasing portion is dedicated to works by women artists.

0:21.5

Today, there are over 600 works by women artists in the collection.

0:26.1

After publishing the must-have book, Abstract Expressionists, The Women, in 2023,

0:31.4

Christian Levitt went on to open on the 21st of June last year, FAMM,

0:35.9

the first private museum in Europe entirely dedicated to women artists,

0:40.6

which is just utterly amazing. Located in Mujan, near Cannes in the south of France,

0:46.0

this newly transformed space features a stunning collection of over 100 works by many of the leading

0:51.4

female artists that span from the impressionist period to the contemporary today.

0:56.1

Think Tracy Emin to Marina Abramovich, past podcast guests, I might add.

1:00.2

The impressive exhibition of painting, sculptures and photographs from the Leveck Collection

1:04.1

highlight the creative brilliance of women who have played pivotal roles

1:08.1

in shaping some of the major artistic movements of the modern period.

1:12.7

Only 30 minutes from Nice Airport, FAMM, which stands for female artists of the Mujan Museum,

1:18.5

is open every day and for further information and bookings, please visit www.fam.com.

1:25.8

I hope you enjoy this episode.

1:32.9

Hello everyone and welcome to The Great Women Artist podcast with me, Katie Hessel.

1:39.2

Some of you might know me from The Great Women Artists, an Instagram account. I set up in

1:43.1

October 2015, which celebrates

1:45.4

female artists on a daily basis, ranging from young graduates to old masters. Well, in a similar

1:52.0

fashion to the Instagram, this podcast is all about celebrating female artists from a variety

1:57.5

of backgrounds and histories. And I am so excited to be interviewing artists on their career

2:02.7

or artists, writers, curators or general art lovers

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