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Therapist Uncensored Podcast

Mentalization and Regression, Responding to Listener’s Questions with Sue Marriott (86)

Therapist Uncensored Podcast

Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD

Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Science, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 21 December 2018

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Therapist Uncensored co-host Sue Marriott ends the year with an episode answering two great questions about mentalization, regression and attachment left by listeners. By the way she totally missed her co-host and partner in crime, Dr. Ann Kelley, who was out of town and could not make it work before end of year. Hi Ann! Can’t wait to have you back on air! In this episode, we discuss: Question 1: “If someone is so far on the blue spectrum, they are completely out of touch with emotions and needs and intimate relationships, trying to think of what the other person feels or staying curious seems almost impossible. It feels like mentalizing is too much to ask from that person. Is there something of an approach you can recommend prior to mentalizing, to basically make it even possible?” A recap on what mentalizing is and how it works – conscious and unconscious examples The Three Pillars model for treating secure attachment – mentalizing isn’t the only intervention. You need to work on gaining an agreement, or getting collaboration that this is even a goal. Also introducing safety via imagery or real relationships to move the person to a more secure, confident place to begin to open up and not be so righteous and certain. All this helps to move from certainty to curiosity – and curiousity helps with mentalization/mindsight/mirror neurons/reflective function…. Question 2: “How to deal with regression and attachment, especially when we are facing frustrating times and emotionally heightened situations? How do we avoid steering into the deep dark corner of your personal attachment which is making the relationship at risk? How do we secure ourselves or your partner?” Discussion of difference between regression and just having attachment insecurity as a whole, living in the blue vs. resorting to dismissiveness or avoidance due to current environmental or internal stressors. Noticing the signs of regression Learning about your triggers, patterns and warning flags of regression – know where your bones are buried. Make a map of your psyche so you can more fully trust yourself and know when not to trust your (usually very strong) reactions. Journaling is a great way to make your map and keep yourself on course. If nothing else, do this to continue to grow your secure coherent narrative towards integration. Integration protects relationships. Resources from this episode: This video is a must watch even if you’ve seen the concept discussed before… Study it, learn it, use it in daily life. Please! More on Dan’s handmodel of the brain – Psychalive. Healing Attachment Disruptions in Adults, Comprehensive Treatment and Repair by Dan Brown and David Elliott This is MUST HAVE book for your professional library. If it’s too dense… stay in touch we have a few options available soon for you from both Elliott and Brown…. Fun stuff to be announced soon. Minding Emotions Cultivating Mentalization in Psychotherapy – by Elliot Jurist Thank you to our brave listeners who allowed us to use their great questions – Sina from Berlin, Germany and Avy! Please uncensor yourself and leave us a message on our voicemail ! So fun! Enjoying this episode? Then you’ll probably enjoy this previous publication as well, Reading Between the Lines, Attachment in the Classrooms with Linnno Rhodes Want to ensure we can keep it going and have more access to more content? Become a supporter of the show at http://www.patreon.com/therapistuncensored Join the Conversation The easiest way to dive in is to like our Facebook – it’s an active page and there is even a private FB community where you can discuss directly with other listeners. Also, we do a bit on Twitter if that’s how you roll! And you can find a couple forays into videos on You Tube if ya can believe that? Finally, join our email list through the front page of our website (this gets you access to our private FB group if you want to sign up for that ... See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Don't match that metronome because you'll end up in a neglect system. So when you feel like you're an intrusion to someone because they're in a blue state and you want to go interact.

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The worst thing you could do would be to match their blue state and go parallel.

0:18.0

They need you to come get them. Hey everybody.

0:26.1

Hey everybody. Hey everybody.

0:27.1

Welcome to Therapists Unsert.

0:28.8

This is a podcast that breaks down interpersonal science into practical and understandable tidbits.

0:34.4

And as you listen, I can just imagine little light bulbs of insight appearing above your head.

0:40.3

Absolutely.

0:41.3

You're going to be surprised and touched at what you learn about yourself as you get more accurate and in-depth view of your mind and your heart and as you figure out those close to you.

0:52.0

Therapist Uncensored brings you decades of experience with interpersonal psychotherapy,

0:56.5

relational neuroscience, modern attachment, and anything else they think will be helpful

1:00.3

in healing humans.

1:01.3

Now, hear your co-host, Dr. Ann Kelly and Sue Marriott.

1:07.0

Hey, thank you so much for hitting play on this podcast. This is Sue Marriott and normally I'm here with my co-host Ann Kelly but

1:15.7

unfortunately she cannot make it today and we put our heads together and decided

1:20.3

to go ahead and for me to go ahead and pop on and do this episode without her because we wanted to

1:26.3

end the year by responding to listeners questions.

1:29.8

Hi first of all thank you for your podcast. I'm listening in from Berlin, Germany and find them very insightful.

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I've just finished listening to the episode about mentalizing

1:40.9

prior that I had listened to your talk about attachment styles.

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Well, here's my question.

1:46.0

If someone is so far on the blue spectrum,

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