Hello, this is Tina Dahili with Tuesday's edition of the Woman's Hour podcast.

Coming up, if you're struggling with your mental health, what impacts can it have on the people

around you? We've been discussing how to cope with mental health problems in relationships.

British Shakutri Live is taking place today. We speak to its founder, Henry Etter Green,

about why Shakutri is worth sampling and celebrating. And Jennifer Eberhart, the author of

Bias, the new science of race and inequality, joins me to talk about how unconscious racial bias

affects us all. Now, relationships are hard enough at times, but how do you cope when one of you

is suffering from poor mental health? What is the best way to support your partner if they're

suffering? And what should you expect from your other half if you are the ones struggling?

Well, I was joined by Linda Gask, who's had 30 years experience as a psychiatrist in the NHS,

journalist and also put in a bell who's written about her late husband's struggle with depression

and addiction, Nicole Crystal Crencel, co-founder of Black Girl Festival, and Alan Phillips and

his wife Karen. Now, Alan has suffered with severe depression in the past. I started by asking Linda

how common it is for poor mental health to be a factor in relationships. Well, I think it works

both ways in relationships that they're just so important to us that if a relationship is going

well, then that's often very good for our mental health. But if there are things going on outside

in our lives that are affecting us and stressing us out, that can be very damaging and troublesome

sometimes for our relationship if we can't handle them. And if our relationships become problematic

or if one person develops mental health problems within a relationship, that can also put a lot

of stress on that relationship. What can the triggers be? And what have you seen change in the

30 years that you've worked as a psychiatrist? Well, I don't work as a psychiatrist now. I retired

from working in the NHS, but I've also had experience of this myself in my own relationship

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