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Hi, I'm Lindsay Graham, the host of Wondry's American History Tellers. In our latest series, we tell the stories of four presidential assassins and their targets.

Exploring how a single act of violence can change the course of history. Listen to American History Tellers on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts.

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It's unbelievable!

It's Roch, and this is American Dreams presented by Bird Wiser, a pod special series. It's a collection of conversations with America's best young male footballing talents.

They were joyfully rolling out in the lead up to the men's world cup later this year.

Last episode, we kicked things off with the great Tyler Adams.

And now, we're headed towards a trio of games. In this, the penultimate window, it's really a seismic defining slate, including Sunday night.

An ice rumble up north against a suddenly, giddly, ascendant Canada test that's a reminder if we needed one, that Conker Caff, they've still played by prison rules.

Don't worry, that's not changing. But it is becoming ever more skilled, confident, and filled with challenge.

And that the United States will be all the better for that in the long term.

And so, it's a magical time to check in with Western McKinney, a delirious talent in the peak form of his life.

We caught out with him at Juventus' training ground. For this, the second episode of Bird Wiser's American Dreams, we dive into a singular journey.

And honestly, in Canada, which is Western style, dwell on the lessons about life he's derived from it. Here it is.

My conversation with Western McKinney.

This is Roch, and it's a true joy to sit here with one of the most optimistic joyous elite players in the American men's game.

A US trailblazer blessed with natural talent, positivity, and buckets of swaggering self-confidence.

I first met him when he was 18 years of age, and it's been one of the joys of my football watching life.

To glimpse him grow from strength to strength, from Texas to Turin, where we know it takes the field from mighty powerhouse Juventus.

Adapting to life in the Syria, as if propelled by an aqueous spell from his beloved Harry Potter.

He's Clint Dempsey's heir apparent, an American who's always up for a scrap, unintimidated, he will not back down.

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