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Remember, you're going to die, so you better get comfortable with death.

Up next on the paranormal podcast.

Welcome to the paranormal podcast. I'm Jim Harold. So glad to be with you once again. And I think we're going to have an absolutely fascinating show because today we're going to talk about death. Specifically, a reason book that is out is called Memento Mori. And it's about how we need to get comfortable with

death. And remember, we're going to die. And the person you see on the screen is the author of

that book. We're talking about Joanna Ebenstein. And again, the book is Mementa Mori,

the art of contemplating death to Live a Better Life.

Joanna is the founder and creative director of morbid anatomy.

And internationally recognized death expert, Joanna is the author of several books, including Anatomica, the exquisite and unsettling art of human anatomy,

death, a graveside companion, and the anatomical Venus. And we're so glad to have her with us.

Joanna, thank you for joining us. I appreciate it. My God, thanks so much for inviting me. What a pleasure.

So let me ask you this. How did you,

and when did you get fascinated with the topic of death? Yeah, that's a question a lot of people

ask me, and there's no easy answer, probably much like yourself with the paranormal. But I can tell

you some things that come to mind. First of all, my grandparents

were Holocaust survivors, and I spent summers with them growing up. And so this, the idea of

death was something that was present. And not just death, but, you know, I can remember when I was a

little kid, my grandmother, they didn't say much about the Holocaust, but what my grandmother did say is that

after Hitler's troops came into Austria, which is where she lived, her best friend on the street

refused to speak to her. And I think to a child, that was so, I just chewed on that all the time,

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