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Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

Melissa Wolfenbarger: Victims of Carl Patton - Liddie Evans Children Speak | Part 5

Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

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4.4696 Ratings

🗓️ 22 March 2023

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

April 29th, 1999. A skull is found in a trash bag outside Action Glass in Atlanta, Georgia.

Soon after, in different trash bags, various other body parts are found. The remains are identified as the remains of Melissa Wolfenbarger, a 21-year-old married mother of two who is reported missing several months prior. In a remarkable twist, Melissa’s remains are verified only after her Father is arrested in connection to an unrelated murder.

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, is joined by Liddie Evans' children: Philip (son-in-law), Carolyn, Renee, Roy and Sylvia. 

They join Sheryl to express their experience of losing their mom, Liddie, who was murdered at age 31 by Carl Patton. They discuss the pain they have endured and how life was with and without Liddie.

They also each share their feelings about the murder of Melissa and why they ultimately cannot forgive Carl. 

Show Notes:

  • [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. If you missed the beginning of Melissa Wolfenbarger’s case check out those episodes here: Melissa Wolfenbarger: Norma and Tina Patton | Part 1, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Karyn Greer | Part 2, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Trace Sargent | Part 3, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Letters From Carl Patton | Part 4 
  • [2:15] “We were told during the trial that their own daughter, Melissa had been murdered. I wouldn't wish that pain on anybody.”
  • [2:48] Liddie Evans was 31 when she was reported missing
  • [4:52] Question: Philip, did you have anything to do with Melissa’s murder?
  • [5:48] Carolyn, one of Liddie’s daughters details out the events that took place the day Liddy was murdered
  • [6:57] Question: Renee, tell us listeners how your mama, Liddie, was the life of the party?
  • [9:24] Question: Roy, what would you say to Carl Patton if you could?
  • [13:20] Question: Carolyn, do you think Norma was just telling a story while on stand? Do you think she was afraid of Carl or do you think she just didn't care? 
  • [15:34] Question: Roy, for you being the oldest and a man, was this even more difficult for you because you could not protect the women in your life at that time?
  • [17:35] Sheryl shares a piece of Carl Patton’s letters with Liddie’s children
  • [17:35] “As I have told you many times, I didn't realize what hurt and harm I'd done till we lost Melissa. Nothing I can say or do will ever change 45 years ago. I have asked my family, the families of the victims, and God to forgive me. I know God will, and I understand why the victim's family won't. I will never forgive Chris, so I do understand their hate toward me.” -Letters from Carl Patton
  • [22:18] Question: Can each of you take a second and think of anything you would like to share on this episode that you feel needs to be on this show?
  • [31:20] “God is the giver and taker of life, not man.”
  • [38:08] “Every person can make a difference and every person should try.” -Dr. E.H
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Sheryl McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnline, a forensic and crime scene expert for “Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,” and a CSI for a metro-area Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook, “Cold Case: Pathways to Justice.”

McCollum is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students, and the criminal justice community. They come together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.

You can connect and learn more about McCollum’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org

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Transcript

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0:00.0

I've told y'all about my uncle Clark, my grandfather's brother on my mother's side.

0:14.4

He was a thief, a con artist, and a swindler.

0:18.2

But I've never told y'all the ending.

0:26.7

May 12, 1951, on a lonely, two-lane, dirt road, out in the country in Wilcox County, Georgia, he was found shot to death. No murder weapon

0:34.3

was found. Nothing of value was taken, not from his car and not from him personally.

0:40.4

It looked like retribution.

0:42.7

When the sheriff went and gave notice to my grandfather of what had occurred,

0:48.3

he asked him, do you know anybody that would want to kill your brother?

0:57.4

And my grandfather answered, half of this county in the next because my grandfather knew his brother. He knew he was a thief and a conman

1:04.4

and a swindler, and he also knew he had slept with a lot of wives. So there were a lot of people that might have wanted to hurt him.

1:13.6

Sometimes your murder victim is a criminal.

1:18.6

Clark was a lot of things, but he was not violent.

1:22.6

He never hurt anybody physically, and none of his crimes deserve the death penalty.

1:29.3

Some of Carl Patton's victims were not perfect.

1:34.3

Some had done some really bad things, but at least two of his victims,

1:39.3

chose men that were maybe no good for him,

1:42.3

but two of his victims were not bad people and were not

1:46.8

criminals. Liddy Evans is one of those people. She was a mother of four. I've been told that she was

1:54.4

the life of the party, a good woman, and a loving and devoted mother. I reached out to Liddy's youngest child who was just six years

2:05.1

old when her mother was murdered. And y'all, she said something so extraordinary to me. I want to

2:11.1

share it right now. She said, and I quote, we were told during the trial that their own daughter, Melissa, had been murdered.

2:22.2

I wouldn't wish that pain on anybody.

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