Speakle and Holmes.

Check Todd out at the ringer.

He's doing incredible stuff with Todd McShay's show.

You guys are the not messing around, crew.

I like it.

Afternoons on the score.

With the 144th pick in the 2025 NFL draft,

the Cleveland Brown Select,

Shador Sanders, quarterback, Colorado.

That's a good reaction.

The reaction in the draft hall, says it all.

Fifth round, 144th pick for shadour Sanders he has been talked about a great deal over the last 72 hours

i guess 96 hours he's been talked about a great deal about where he's supposed to go, where he went,

why he didn't go, what were the reasons by it, is he being blackballed, was going on here,

all of this stuff.

It's fascinating.

Like, I was, my brother's not really a sports guy.

And so he asked me Saturday about all of it. And what I told him was there's a lot

here. I don't think it's just this simple. And I think some people do want to reduce it down

to one cause or another. And I don't think it's that simple. I think there's a lot of things

at play here. Number one, for me at least speaks, I look at your door and go, man, that guy's that simple. I think there's a lot of things at play here. Number one, for me, at least,

speaks, I look at Chatur and go, man, that guy's got incredible stats. He's tough. He's accurate,

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