All right, Mary, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for inviting me to come along. Obviously, you see I'm outside here right now. Yes. But we can go inside there, but it's a bit warmer. Okay, cool. We'll lose the noise of the aeroplane. It's going overhead. We can get on our way. All right, lovely. Cool, let's go. Let's go. Welcome to Up Front. I'm Chloe Morgan. On Monday night, I headed down to East Dulwich in South London,

tucked away in a very busy sports hall where volleyball matches were being played below us and a Zumba

class going on next door. I sat down on a gym bench, should I add, with a true England icon,

Mary Phillip, appearing at two World Cups with England,

accumulating 65 caps as well as being the first black woman to Captain the Lionesses,

Mary's international career was sensational. And her club career, playing for the likes of Millwall,

Fulham, Arsenal and Chelsea, was equally impressive with almost every trophy to prove it.

Now she's the first female manager of Peckham Town, a brilliant local club in South London.

And of course, Mary also made history here where she became the first female coach to win silverware in the men's game.

So Hitchside, at one of her training sessions, Mary sat down with me to talk about the challenges of being a female coach in the men's game. So Hitchside at one of her training sessions, Mary sat down with me to talk about the challenges

of being a female coach in the men's game, whether she'd ever want to return to the women's game

and much, much more. I want to start from the absolute very beginning. So could you tell us how

you got into football and what it was like playing football as a kid growing up?

I know, definitely.

Obviously, I got into football, obviously, I lived in the estate and down the canal.

Playing football with my brothers and local kids in the estate.

And it just, something I enjoyed doing.

And then he was in his primary school and just one lunchtime we wanted to play football.

And the boys weren't letting the girls play, as you do then or as they did back then I should say and just the dinner lady just took the ball from

them and said okay it's girls football no you weren't letting the girls play so it's girls only football

and from that day law and behold the boys always let's play so not just out of school but also in

school I was able to do something I really enjoyed and it just

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