Hello and welcome to the History Extra podcast from BBC History magazine,

Britain's best-selling history magazine. I'm Ellie Korthorn.

The guest on today's podcast is the historian and historical consultant Professor Ryan Novell.

Ryan's written a new book about rebellion and revolt

in early medieval England and France.

Our content director, Dave Musgrove,

caught up with him to find out more.

Today I am joined by Ryan Lavelle who is Professor of Early Medieval History at the University of

Winchester and a regular contributor to BBC History magazine and to our

lecture program and he's been on this podcast before so a familiar voice to some of you.

His latest book is Places of Contested Power,

Conflict and Rebellion in England and France, 830 to 1150 a.D. published just now in August by Boydell, so available to read.

And we're going to have a chat about that and some of the themes that he's looking at.

So Ryan, thank you for joining us.

Oh, thank you very much.

It's a pleasure to speak to you, Dave.

Good, good stuff.

So firstly, I guess we should give you an opportunity.

This is just trying to explain broadly what you're trying to do with this

piece of research. As the title suggests, it's about rebellions, rebellions against authority

during this period and particularly seen through the lens of place and where things happen.

So you can obviously describe it much better than me, you wrote the book, but so what's the

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