Me vs. Piers Morgan on Israel's Gaza massacre - on Western hypocrisy and genocide
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Owen Jones
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🗓️ 20 November 2023
⏱️ 12 minutes
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Last night I went on Piers Morgan's show to debate Israel's mass slaughter in Gaza.
Piers has previously said that Russia's brutal invasion of Ukraine constitutes genocide. If that's true - then why doesn't the same apply to Gaza?
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, so last night I appeared on PS Morgan's show to discuss Israel's continuing murderous assault on Gaza. |
| 0:06.8 | They have been asking me for a while to come on. I very rudely ignored them. |
| 0:10.7 | Basically, if I'm honest, I'm aware that I'm something of a cultural prop amongst some of PS's audience. |
| 0:18.3 | And the last thing I want to do is anything which turns Israel's mass slaughter in Gaza into some sort of |
| 0:23.9 | cultural war is too important than that. It's a matter of life and death on a truly horrendous mass scale. |
| 0:30.3 | Now, the reason I eventually said yes is because to be honest, whatever feelings you or I might have |
| 0:35.1 | about PS, things he said and done, I have been impressed by the platforming of unequivocally pro-Palestinian |
| 0:41.1 | voices on his show, including, of course, Palestinians themselves who need to be heard from the most |
| 0:46.7 | right now. Now, you may consider this a damning indictment of the rest of the media, not unreasonably, |
| 0:51.7 | but his platform, I think, has helped the cause of the Palestinian people. It's been a net benefit. |
| 0:57.7 | That's my own view. He's a tough interviewer. We're both maybe reasonably accused of liking the |
| 1:03.5 | sounds of our own voices, but anyway, you can see the whole thing on his PS Morgan and sensor channel. |
| 1:08.7 | But here's a couple of clips. First, he has referred to Russia's brutal invasion of Ukraine as genocide. |
| 1:14.9 | So I wanted to talk about this and the question of consistency. |
| 1:18.2 | What's happened here is babies right now are gasping for breath and suffocating. |
| 1:25.2 | We've had several nurses and patients shopped dead. In fact, this whole hospital has been |
| 1:30.0 | described by medical staff as a mortuary. But you don't know. |
| 1:34.0 | When a hospital becomes a mass grave, dozens of decomposing bodies have to be buried in a |
| 1:41.8 | mass grave in a hospital. We're talking, what you said, can I just quote something you said |
| 1:45.6 | about peatting? I think this was very wise. You said in March 2022, I'm seeing a genocide |
| 1:50.7 | that wants to kill women and babies and maternity hospitals as you sit back and let me do it. |
| 1:54.8 | Why was it so disgraceful? But you were right. You were right to be heard. |
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