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Science Vs

MDMA: Can Ecstasy Cure Your Agony?

Science Vs

Spotify Studios

Education, Science, Health & Fitness

4.412.4K Ratings

🗓️ 23 November 2023

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Molly, ecstasy, MDMA: whatever you call it, this drug is blowing up. Some say MDMA can be a legitimate medicine to treat conditions like PTSD. But others reckon it's a dangerous drug that can fry your brain, and even kill you — from just one bad pill. Who's right? That's what we're snorting up today. We talk to psychiatrist George Greer, public health researcher Prof. Joseph Palamar, former DEA special agent James Hunt, and neuroscientist Prof. Harriet de Witt. Find our transcript here: https://bit.ly/ScienceVsMDMA2023  This is an updated version of our MDMA episode from a few years ago.  Chapters:  In this episode, we cover: (00:00) Chapter 1: Cops and club kids (05:02) Chapter 2: Therapists try MDMA (09:05) Chapter 3: Your brain on MDMA (15:34) Chapter 4: Can MDMA cure racism?  (20:32) Chapter 5: Can MDMA Cure PTSD?  (23:13) Chapter 6: Is the MDMA comedown real?  (26:40) Chapter 7: Can MDMA damage your brain?  (30:04) Chapter 8: Can MDMA kill you?  (33:23) Chapter 9: Buying MDMA on the street (37:01) Chapter 10: Conclusion This episode was produced by Heather Rogers and Wendy Zukerman, with help from Shruti Ravindran, Kaitlyn Sawrey, Rose Rimler, Joel Werner, Nick DelRose and Michelle Dang. Edited by Blythe Terrell. Fact checking by Michelle Harris, Ben Kuebrich and Diane Kelly. Sound design by Martin Peralta, Haley Shaw and Bumi Hidaka. Music written by Bobby Lord, Peter Leonard, Emma Munger, So Wylie and Bumi Hidaka. Thanks to all the researchers we reached out to for this episode, including Prof. Jerrold S. Meyer, Prof. Niamh Nic Daéid, Dr Brian Earp, Dr. Carl Roberts and Dr. Matthew Baggott. An extra thanks to Lucy Little, Johnny Dynell, Jesse Rudoy, Joseph Lavelle Wilson, and the Zukerman family.  Science Vs is a Spotify Studios Original. Listen for free on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Follow us and tap the bell for episode notifications. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Wendy Zuckerman, and you're listening to sides verses.

0:03.8

This is the show that pits facts against.

0:08.2

MDMA.

0:10.6

Ec ecstasy, e, x, volley, whatever you want to call it, it's all the same thing.

0:15.0

And people are saying that this party drug should be seen as a legitimate medicine.

0:21.0

So are they right?

0:23.8

Well that is the question we're snorting up today.

0:27.4

Hello.

0:28.4

Jose.

0:32.4

Joseph Palomat was a club kid in New York City in the late 90s and early 2000s.

0:38.0

Reporter Heather Rogers and I went to chat to him in Manhattan.

0:41.0

My prime year was probably 2000. I mean I never missed a week at

0:45.7

sound factor except the week of 9-11 where clubs were shut down. Oh so you were there

0:50.7

when Sandstorm came out.

0:52.8

I really remember that.

0:57.8

Yeah, and it...

1:00.8

You have a very big smile on your face right now.

1:04.8

That was a good summer.

1:06.7

But anyway.

1:10.8

And Joseph wasn't your likely club kid.

1:13.0

When he finished high school, he was actually really square

1:16.0

and wanted to be a cop.

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