Good afternoon from Washington. I'm Chuck Dodden. This is the Chuck Todd cast. Yes, we are

taping this before we have received the redacted version of the tale of two cities. Also known

as a model report on today's show, though, what happens when an incompetence challenge

by someone from his own party? We're going to hear from Stuart Stevens. He is the political

advisor and strategist for the former Massachusetts government and Republican 2020 presidential

hopeful bill. Well, for those of you who know Stuart Stevens, you'll know this is not

his first rodeo in presidential politics. He was the chief guy for a one-metre Romney,

sort of fascinating discussion with him later in the show. But first, apparently the rest

of the political world has discovered that Bernie Sanders is the front runner and are

suddenly ringing their hands about it. President Trump is certainly noticed and now that he's

starting to notice him and more Democrats are realizing, oh, wow, Bernie Sanders is the front

runner, our Democrats getting a little nervous about who their front runner is. Then we're

going to dig into the president's immigration policies. What is he up to? Does he want to

solve the problem? Or is that the feature with me today? Casey Hunt, NBC News Capitol

Hill correspondent and host of Angus Young's favorite cable show, Casey DC and MSNBC, the

White House Bureau Chief of the Washington Post and an MSMBC analyst, Mr. Phil Rucker.

Hello, Mr. Rucker. Hey, Chuck. Hey, Chuck.

Hi, Ms. Hunt. How are you? Well, how are you?

Okay. I do feel like this is the week. And, you know, Casey, back in my hotline days,

and I think back in your early political journalism days, we'd hold our nose sort of snobbishly

at the Washington Post in the New York Times when they suddenly discover something that the

rest of the political world had been writing about for weeks. I tease Mr. Rucker. But your

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