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Maya Shan Bag-Glong is the author of What We Carry a memoir and also The 16th of June, a novel. Lang's work has

been featured in The New York Times, The Observer, the Washington Post, the Philadelphia Inquire,

and InStyle, among others. The 16th of June was long listed for the Center for Fiction First

Novel Prize and was an audio award finalist for Best Audio Book. Recipient of the 2017 Neil Shepard Prize in Fiction, Lange has received support from the Bronna Jaffe Foundation and from Breadloaf. Her short work has been nominated for a Pushcart Prize. After graduating, Magna Cum Laude from Swarthmore College, she earned her master's from New York University and her PhD in Comparative Literature from Sunni's Stony Brook. A passionate teacher. She loves working with aspiring writers, Lang is the daughter of Indian immigrants, and lives outside New York City. Thanks, Maya, for coming on moms don't have time to read books. Thank you so much for having me, Zadie. It is an absolute pleasure to talk with you. Oh, you too. And I know when we did our Instagram live,

I hadn't had a chance to finish your book yet. And I was like, I'm loving it so much. We have to continue this. So I'm glad I had time to read the whole book. And now here we are so we can have a proper conversation. And I'm so glad I did because it's so good. Your book is so good. and it started off great and kept right on.

Sometimes books, you know, they can start off great and then not continue on. But this was from start to finish such a pleasure. So congratulations on writing it and all the rest.

Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

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