All right, for those of you who listen to this show on a daily basis,

that the show might sound a little bit different today,

and that is because, well, the studio, the Camp Clark and Chicken Palace,

Thrive Time Show Studio at, you know, the Camp Clark and Chicken Palace,

where I live, is currently underwater.

You see, we had flash floods that hit Tulsa, Oklahoma.

And it's a crazy deal.

But I found out that about four feet of water mixed with equipment

doesn't work very well.

And so I found out that Apple computers and microphones

can be fascinating flotation devices that don't float so they're

sinking devices, but they're paperweights. But the show must go on. So here we are at 328 in the

morning. We're about 30 minutes into editing today's podcast. And I can tell you what, there's only

so much that you can do with with

canned air and backup equipment so you're might you might hear some some uh you know audio

faux but today's guest is absolutely great his name is max lucato and he is a best-selling author

of over 50 books and on today's show he's going to share with us how he landed his first book deal after 14 rejections with publishers.

Oh, come on.

Who let the wookies in here?

I know this is a backup studio, but no, we have a new rule.

No wookies in the studio.

On today's show, Max Lucato shares his process, or as the Canadians would say, his process

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