Hey there, fans of The Nerve and Maureen Callahan, it's Mark Kalpern, host of Next Up, also here on the Megan Kelly Network.

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Welcome into Next Up, you Nexters from North America around the world.

I'm Mark Kalprin, editor-in chief of the live interactive platform Two-Way and the host here of everything next up.

Another week, it's Tuesday, and you know what that means, a brand new episode.

We're happy to have you here.

I'll bring you my exclusive reporting on a topic that we've talked about a little

bit, but I think it's super important now in the wake of the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Stories

that matter most to us are important, and this one is as big as anything. And then next up after

that, Maureen Callahan, columnist for the Daily Mail, host of the Nerve, my sister program here

on the Megan Kelly Network. Ma morin and i are going to talk

about writing arithmetic pop culture and celebrity so you won't want to miss that but first up is my

new reporting on charlie kirk put aside the day-to-day headlines of what's happened since his assassination

i think the bigger thing here is what Charlie represented, the person and his death, of course, matters extraordinarily to the people in his family, his friends, business associates, colleagues.

But I've been thinking a lot about what it means more broadly and talking to a lot of people in the

conservative movement who can explain this so well, MAGA folks who I've talked to in the last

few days reflecting on Charlie's life and why this has been so impactful. You hear about the impact,

not just from the president and the vice president and people who knew Charlie

personally. But I've been struck on two-way and other conversations as I've traveled the last few

days. How much people who never knew Charlie and weren't even particularly aware of what his

day-to-day activities were, how much they've been struck by this? Now, part of it is just the horror

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