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Welcome to the Our Lives podcast. Our special guest today is Jesus Espino.

Hey, Sus, man.

Thank you for hanging out with us today.

Thank you for inviting me.

Really happy to be here.

I saw that you are a speaker for the

Gopheran, Athens, which is happening in February of 2024. And I thought, man, now, now's the time

to talk to Haseus. What's your talk going to be about in Gophon happens. Okay, this talk is kind of a summary of what I consider my aha moments, exploring the

source code of go, because I've been doing some talks about the runtime and the compiler.

And during that process, I just realized certain things while I was there.

Something like, okay, things, sometimes small things like the internos of slices and how it works.

Because every time you see up and there, it's like, why is this immutable, but at the same time how how it is efficient and all that stuff that cross your mind, but you don't understand when you start exploring the code, oh, this is very clever.

And for me, there were some aha moments and I want to share them.

And probably for most of the people, some aha moments are going to be able to, uh, that's silly. And some of them are going to be like,

oh, whoa, that's interesting. So that's my expectation. Let's see how it goes. I teach now,

I say now over the last maybe five or six years, I've taught to kind of stay away from the mechanics

and the implementation of things and really learn

the semantics or the behavior because you're looking at the implementation of something that

could very much change in six months as the Go team continues to release on a six-month cycle,

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