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🗓️ 25 September 2025
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Like any card-carrying Italian worth his focaccia, singer Matteo Bocelli says he could eat pasta for breakfast, lunch and dinner! From his home in Tuscany, Matteo tells host Rachel Belle about the super-simple, but deeply delicious, sauce recipe he’s been trying to perfect, inspired by a three-Michelin-star restaurant, and why you should always choose Italian pasta made from ancient grains.
You’ve probably heard the tales: A gluten-sensitive American travels to Italy or France, and can magically stuff their face with croissants, baguettes and pasta without any negative consequences. Rachel asks Dr. Alessio Fasano, professor of nutrition and a Celiac and gluten expert and researcher at Harvard Medical School, if, and how, this is possible.
Matteo just released his second album, Falling in Love, and if his name sounds familiar, it’s because his dad is Andrea Bocelli, the famous Italian singer.
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| 0:00.0 | Alaska Airlines has teamed up with Hawaiian Airlines to create new nonstop international flights. |
| 0:05.8 | Go to Alaskaair.com or Hawaiian Airlines.com and I'll tell you more details later in the show. |
| 0:19.8 | I'm Rachel Bell and this is your last meal. |
| 0:23.7 | The show where celebrities share stories about the foods they love most, |
| 0:27.0 | and we dig into the history, culture, or science of those meals with experts from around the world. |
| 0:32.5 | Today on the program, Mateo Bacheli. |
| 0:35.5 | Tonight, I think I'm falling in love. Could this be... Mateo Bacheli. |
| 0:54.7 | That is the title track for Mattio's brand new album, Falling in Love. |
| 1:02.3 | And if his last name sounds familiar, that's because his dad is Andrea Bichelli, the famous Italian singer. |
| 1:08.3 | Mateo is also Italian. He lives in Tuscany, so it's not surprising that he loves pasta. |
| 1:13.4 | But my ears perked up when he talked about what kind of pasta he eats. More specifically, the type of grains that his favorite pastas are made with. Have you heard |
| 1:18.9 | those fabled stories about Americans who can't eat gluten in the States? But when they travel to Europe, |
| 1:24.3 | they can magically feast on baguettes and croissants and lasagnas without getting sick. |
| 1:29.7 | Well, a doctor, professor, and gluten intolerance expert joins the show to tell me if this is a real thing, if gluten is different on different continents. |
| 1:39.7 | That's coming up later in the show. |
| 1:41.4 | But first, my conversation with Mateo Bacheli. |
| 1:45.2 | So, no, to you enamelero. |
| 1:50.3 | Tonight, I think I'm falling alone. |
| 1:55.2 | Mateo Bacheli just released his second album. |
| 1:58.2 | His first album was created during COVID, |
| 2:02.6 | at the height of social distancing. |
| 2:08.6 | So this time around, he wanted everyone working on the music in the same room. You recorded at home. So I'm curious to hear what that process was like. It sounds like you were doing a lot of |
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