I would like to think that this thing has been pretty fun, right? We laugh about stuff,

theoretically sometimes, you know, it feels like you're not supposed to laugh about some of the stuff that we've laughed about because

This is a Bible and it's important and maybe part of the fun of this happening in this kind of medium where we're just on the

internet we're hanging out or whatever you can be more like normal people we can have

practical plain conversation about this kind of stuff also thinking about it really

deeply and clearly taking as much time as I want to go through it at the pace and focus level that I feel like, which has been great.

That said, I mean from time to time there's just been stuff that has come up in the text

that hits me in such a certain way that it is hard to maintain that tone of

goofiness that I enjoy and that makes me feel socially

comfortable and this might be one of those topics because this is where we get into

the passage where Jesus really starts to take the physical abuse. I know that

there are a bunch of you here for whom Jesus is a compelling and

interesting character and that's about as far as you'd be willing to go with it

right now. Cool I can respect that. I really genuinely, I mean we don't talk

about like my religious devotional life very much in these conversations but I

have one and I think I maybe got there in kind of weird ways but I am I think

really really highly of Jesus of Nazareth beyond highly like I think of

somebody else I think the same thing Peter did. I think he's the son of God. I think he's Christ. I think he's the Messiah. I think he alone has the words of life.

And I've tried to make this podcast the kind of thing where it's not all just one like big

persuasive sales pitch but instead just I don't know I kind of want to see if we could

talk about the thing at a deep honest maybe even at times intelligent level

and look at the details together regardless of our convictions or where we land on the thing and I think we've pulled that off pretty well right

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