Everybody, I'm Matt. This is the 10 minute Bible Hour podcast. And we've been working on

Matthew chapter 18, verses 15 through 17 this week, which is the material about what

to do when somebody sins or sins against you in church. We're in the middle of the community

of faith, the community life discourse where Jesus talks about how to do existence in this

new church thing that he's inventing. And one of the practical aspects of this is he's

telling people, here's what you do, when inevitably things go wrong, relationally. In the

passage, Jesus doesn't seem terribly shocked that this could happen or like this would be

a crazy outlier. He seems to indicate that this will happen from time to time. And then

he gives these three simple steps for how to work the thing out. You go to somebody

alone and you try to work it out. If it doesn't work, you go with somebody else to establish

clear testimony as to what exactly went on there. If that doesn't work, you take them

before the church. If that doesn't work, you treat them like somebody who isn't really

a Christian. That's the rundown. But there's this lingering question I have that still goes

with it. And that is, are there ever any exceptions or is this a hard and fast set of rules,

no matter how difficult the case? And I certainly have some thoughts on this of my own.

But I thought, I know some people who've done this for a lot longer than me and have

had to work out the practical mechanations of what it is to do this passage in a family

of faith in a church setting. And that is my parents. I figured I'd just ask my mom and

my dad what they do with this thing. And if there are any exceptions to it. So mom, dad,

got you there?

Yeah, right here. I love you. Thank you for talking with me about a thing without any

notice whatsoever. All right, where are you about your cough?

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