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The Chris Cuomo Project

Matt Taibbi on the TRUTH Behind Russiagate

The Chris Cuomo Project

Chris Cuomo

News, News Commentary, Politics, Government

4.63.3K Ratings

🗓️ 12 August 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Matt Taibbi (author, investigative journalist, and publisher, Racket News) joins Chris Cuomo to dig into the unanswered questions surrounding the FBI’s surveillance of the Trump campaign, the origins of the Steele dossier, and what he sees as parallels to Watergate and the WMD scandal. They debate whether any crimes will be proven, the role of the media, and how Russiagate’s legacy shapes politics today. From FISA warrants to informant approaches, leaked intelligence to unanswered questions about Hillary Clinton’s campaign, Taibbi lays out the evidence he’s uncovered — and why he believes accountability matters. Cuomo challenges him on the political impact, the risks of endless investigations, and the future of independent journalism. For a limited time only, get 60% off your first order PLUS free shipping when you head to http://www.Smalls.com/CUOMO Go to http://www.quince.com/CUOMO for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns."\ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:30.3

Russia Gates not going away. And there are real questions, and I have some answers for you,

0:36.1

from the man who has dug deeper than anyone.

0:38.7

Chris Cuomo here. Welcome to the Chris Cuomo Project. Matt Taibi, he is making the case for

0:44.4

independent journalism. He's on substack racket news. He is a real one, okay? Not just hot takes.

0:52.3

All right? This is a guy who does the work, who does the reporting, and he has real questions about

0:57.0

Russiagate, that some of which I find the same curiosity, some of which I don't.

1:02.3

So how did it go?

1:03.9

Let's get after it.

1:15.4

Matt Taibi, my man, Rackett News.

1:17.2

Thank you for joining me, as always.

1:18.2

Of course.

1:18.9

Thanks for me, I'm young.

1:19.8

Chris, I appreciate it.

1:20.9

So there's two big ones.

1:30.8

I've got to talk to you about the known and unknown and significant of what we're calling the Russia Gate probe again. And I also want to talk to you about media and responsibility. But first things first, why is it called racket news?

1:39.4

That was actually the name of a publication that I was going to co-edit with Alex Perrine once upon a time with the intercept years ago.

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