Matt Ridley: Climate, Covid and the corruption of science

The Brendan O'Neill Show

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🗓️ 24 July 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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The Brendan O’Neill Show is now available to watch on video. To make sure you never miss any of spiked’s videos, subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@spiked Matt Ridley – author of Birds, Sex and Beauty and Viral – returns to The Brendan O’Neill Show. Matt and Brendan discuss the conspiracy of silence over the origins of Covid-19, the dangers of climate alarmism and how Ed Miliband is bankrupting Britain. Order Brendan O’Neill’s After the Pogrom now from: 🇬🇧 📕 Amazon UK: https://www.amazon.co.uk/After-Pogrom-October-Israel-Civilisation/dp/1068719303/ 🇺🇸 📕 Amazon US: https://www.amazon.com/After-Pogrom-October-Israel-Civilisation/dp/1068719303/ Support spiked: https://www.spiked-online.com/support/ Sign up to spiked’s newsletters: https://www.spiked-online.com/newsletters/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Are you now thoroughly convinced that COVID came from a laboratory?
0:03.2	We had a global epidemic of influenza caused by a mistake in a vaccine laboratory in 1977.
0:08.4	We had an anthrax outbreak that had been caused by a lab leak.
0:13.0	I think the evidence is very strong.
0:15.0	There was a ferocious response to the very discussion of this possibility.
0:20.3	A lot of people that write love that phrase, escape from the lab, because it sounds like
0:23.5	something from Marvel movie or a comic book.
0:25.5	I think something rather sinister happened in terms of just how much influence the Chinese
0:30.7	regime and its supporters have over the scientific establishment in the West and academia,
0:37.3	where, you know, Chinese money is
0:39.6	absolutely indispensable. I did want to ask you about the climate question. The bonkers thing
0:46.2	about the current milliband policy. Driven by the science. Trying to stop drilling in the
0:51.5	North Sea, but he's quite happy to buy gas from Norway.
0:55.3	It's the same damn field of gas under the seabed, the unreliables industry, wind and solar.
1:02.3	They are trousering.
1:05.8	Enormous sums.
1:07.6	The landowners, I'm a landowner.
1:09.7	I don't do this stuff, but I wish I did because I'd be seriously rich if I had wind turbines all over my land.
1:21.6	Hello, welcome back to the Brendan O'Neill Show with me, Brendan O'Neill and my special guest this week, Matt Ridley.
1:29.4	Matt, welcome to the show.
1:31.0	Brendan, it's great to be back with you.
1:33.6	It's always good to have you on.
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