You're going to. Right now to the grain. If your team have ever been involved in a relegation battle and in

Scotland are only two teams who've never been relegated, one of which is the

mighty dandies Aberdeen, you'll know all about the emotional roller coaster that it can cause.

If your team survived, you'll also know all about the sheer pulsating

exhilaration. Mathesia is fascinating on battling for survival at Southampton,

plus the burden of responsibility that he felt on his shoulders while trying

to keep the club in the top flight. Matt explains why Glenn Hodle was the only manager he

swore at during his career and listen closely for reflections on

Ronnie Eklund, the lost genius of European football, Maurizio Poitino plus Garth Bell.

He's good on those. Really interesting. This episode was made

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UK and donate. We'd thank you for it and I think you'd feel proud. Later's. Then again let me go in my curiosity, Aberdeen's my club passionate about them.

I was lucky enough to be at Pottery when you know we were winning trophies with Eddie Turnbull and

Ali McLeod and then Billy McNeil was a classy man this fella from St. Brown came along Ferguson.

We took on Glasgow, we won the league, we took on Europe, we beat Real Madrid and it was it changed my life.

I'm not a board people who listened to this before but it changed my belief about what was possible in life

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