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. Hello and welcome to rock and roll politics with me Steve Richards.

Thank you very much indeed for tuning in from wherever you are around the world. Well, what a lot is going on. Hancock,

blimey, raises so many questions. And there are questions that I'm going to be addressing

at the live show at King's Place, which is being streamed live and is live in the main hall. I'll tell you the

structure of our evening together in a second, but if you're listening to this podcast on Sunday,

it's tomorrow night at seven. If you're listening on Monday, it's tonight at seven. And if you're

listening later on in the week, you've missed the live event,

but it's available on the King's Place website. The streamed event is available for a week.

So this is what we're going to do together. Tomorrow night, tonight, or whenever you are listening to this podcast, but it's Monday night.

I'm going to begin with Hancock and the Hancock saga and the significance of his replacement

and the way that whole sequence was reported. It raises many interesting questions.

And I'm going to segue neatly from Hancock to Frosty, Lord David Frost and Brexit, because,

as we've discussed so many times on this podcast, Brexit has not done, but I've kind of, as a service to rock and roll politics, communities around the world, I mean, Frosty turns down most broadcast interviews.

The Marr program bits in a bid each week and he turns it down, but he can't

turn down select committees, so he's done quite a few of those and others, and I've been following

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