Hi, I'm Zibi Owens, and you're listening to the Webby-nominated podcast, Moms don't have time to read books.

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And by the way, I have two Lauren Gabrielson headbands, which I wear all the time. And you can see in my photos on my events page because I wear them everywhere. And they're amazing. And actually my six-year-old daughter steals mine all the time. So anyway, Lauren Gabrielson.com. I'm very excited to be with Matt Hall today. Matt is the author of Odds-on at the Making of an evidence-based investor. He is the co-founder and president of Hill Investment Group and currently lives in St. Louis, Missouri, with his wife and daughter. He is also the host of the podcast, Take the Longview. So, welcome to Mom's Don't Have Time to Read Books. Thanks so much for coming on the show. I'm glad to be on this great show, Zibby. So Matt, you wrote this book called Odds on the Making of an Evidence-Based Investor. And we met on vacation with our kids, and you were like, well, I wrote a book. And I had no idea. It was so amazing. I read this whole book, Start to Finish. It's called The Making of

an Evidence-Based Investor in the subtitle, which sounds like very businessy, but this is really

a personal story, this book that you wrote. And I just loved it. So I'm really excited to be

talking to you about it. Oh, thank you. Well, I worked really hard on the book. And, you know,

writing what for me is a very personal story, writing a

memoir is not easy. And it's also, at times, I heard one of your other podcast guests at one

point say that it doesn't feel lonely if you're creating a work of fiction because you're sort you're sort of getting to know this

like village of people that you're creating for me going back through my own experience you have

these moments where you go is this going to be relevant is this going to connect with people

and I loved the process so and writing the book has been transformational.

And I really wanted to do a personal narrative that was aimed at sharing the truths or the

important truths I have found about modern investing. But I had experience watching my mentor write many books that didn't really

connect. And if you go to any big bookstore and you look in the business section, it's littered

with books that are all sort of doing the same thing. And I really wanted to do something different.

So your book talks a lot about your personal journey

and how you started off life.

You dropped out of law school.

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