The amount of depth and power that came from just racing on the road is ridiculous.

Doing that leveled me up to where I am now because I saw how these guys trained and the

level it can be snowing, pissing with rain, whatever, they're just out there, six hours, whatever,

and they bust their balls every day just it's it's a way of

life you know and that that was like i was like okay shit i'm soft it's showtime everybody showtime

you've been living in a dream world ne Neo. This is the world as it exists today.

Life moves pretty fast.

You don't stop and look around once in a while.

You could miss it.

Listen, we're talking about practice.

Repeat on the dude's room.

Donnie, you're out of your element.

I see, you think this has nothing to do with you.

Don't ever trash talk black Jesus.

This is the Adventure Stash with Payson McAlvin.

Hello, everyone.

Welcome back to the show.

Really excited to bring you today's conversation with Matt Beers,

a guy that I've been following for a few years now,

I think probably originally because of all of his success at the Cape Epic,

which happens to be kind of his home race, I guess.

But this year I've gotten to know him a lot better personally

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