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He is a math crusader.

He wants everyone to be comfortable with math.

And I appreciate his movement.

First and Math is the website, firstandmath.com.

Mr. Robert's son. Hey. Hi, Karen.

Hi. Good to see you. They always have such a great smile. Well, you make me smile.

It's not, I don't get a smile to everybody. All right. Okay. Everybody don't get this

smile, Robert's son. It is reserved for the people that bring

goodness into the world, which you do. I did want to spend some time with you because I'm reading,

listening to, which is a different exercise, reading versus listening. Audio books have become

very, very popular. But different things get awakened, listening than actually reading. And I feel like we need to read more,

but I don't have a time. So I'm reserving reading for novels only. But every other book is

nonfiction. I'm listening to the nonfiction. So I'm listening to Radical Equations, Bob Moses.

And you mentioned Bob Moses being an inspiration, one of the few times you were here

before. And I think about the movement that was created through a man with his vision around

math, and it wasn't about math at all. How did you run into a Robert Moses?

Well, Robert Moses is known for us focusing on the fact that algebra is a gateway.

And it is because can either open doors for kids or closed doors for kids.

And if you fear algebra, not good at algebra, really all the lucrative STEM careers are going to be closed off to you.

Now, what's ironic is algebra, the concept

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