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And in the way that I interview my guest, I hope that it makes you want to tell your friends that it is an enjoyable experience, even if you do not agree with anything that my guess is discussing, but that you appreciate the fact that I'm bringing these people to you and allowing you to ultimately make up your own mind, which is very, very important.

In this day and age where you see others being censored all the time, I will never do that.

I do try my best before I interview a guest to let them know that it is very important that they feel like they are in a safe space and that I won't judge them.

This is a no judgment zone and that you guys won't judge them, okay, because I want them to say whatever is on their mind.

And thank you for allowing me to be a part of your life every week.

All right, my special guest tonight is William Ramsey and he's returning to the show to discuss Alistair Crowley, who was a controversial occultist and a ceremonial magician.

And many say he was a traitor to the British people and we're going to hear all about his dark behavior right now.

My name is William Ramsey.

I was a first book that I published almost 10 years ago, was titled Profit of Evil, Alistair Crowley 9-11, and the New World Order.

And it goes back as basically a biography about Crowley.

He was real name, was Edward Crowley, he was born in England in 1875.

But he went on to become one of the more famous, if not the most famous modern occultist.

He died in 1947. So I really kind of went through and tried to go back and get my own view of what he was really up to.

He's a complex individual who really never had a normal job. He was a come from a wealthy family.

His dad was sold beer and kind of likes snacks throughout the pub system in England.

And so it afforded Crowley who was an only child kind of the best of the best.

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