Mass Vaccination and Natural Immunity: Bret Speaks with Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche

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Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

Natural Sciences, Society & Culture, News, Adaptation, Modernity, Culture, Politics, Science, Evolutionary Biology

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🗓️ 16 June 2022

⏱️ 124 minutes

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Summary

Bret speaks with Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche in Bath, England, together for the COVID Better Way Conference 2022.

Geert Vanden Bossche is a Doctor of Veterinary Medicine who has specialist expertise in virology and vaccinology, Geert has worked in industry in the construction of vaccines, and in the non profit sector working to bring immunity to larger numbers of people.

Find Geert:

https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/

https://twitter.com/GVDBossche

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_yhGQiJ5lTmOaoIQA91GzA

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First DarkHorse Podcast with Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche:

https://youtu.be/BNyAovuUxro

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Timestamps:

(00:00) Introduction

(02:10) Previous predictions

(08:06) Mass vaccination during a pandemic

(14:40) Sterilizing immunity

(17:44) T-Cell immunity

(25:52) Narrow immunity to one antigen

(36:05) Selection of vaccine-immune escaped variants

(38:43) Why are we still mass vaccinating with same antigen?

(45:20) Where would we be without the vaccines?

(52:41) Spanish Flu and natural immunity

(57:53) Why innate immunity decays

(01:07:28) Non neutralizing antibodies binding to the spike

(01:13:35) Seasonality and age

(01:18:02) Geert’s hypothesis on ivermectin dosage increase

(01:23:07) Will the virus transmit outside?

(01:27:23) Where are we now in this pandemic?

(01:35:03) Geert’s hypothesis

(01:41:33) Bret breaks down Geert’s hypothesis

(01:47:37) A new phase of the pandemic

(01:56:28) Advice to the world

(02:02:05) Wrap up

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0:00.0	This type of balance between a pathogen and an immune system has been shaped over thousands of years
0:08.6	through evolution, through natural selection, all these type of things.
0:12.4	What we have done here literally is we have thrown a bombshell on this thing,
0:19.9	you know, on this delicate balance that has been established for many, many, many years, right?
0:25.2	And then we would, would we expect that this thing is just going to die out,
0:32.4	not going to have consequences on the corona, it's the end of the pandemic phase, as our friend Fauci is saying,
0:38.1	you know, how can you ever end the pandemic without cutting dramatically the infection rate?
0:43.6	What you are seeing right now is exactly the opposite.
0:46.4	Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse Podcast. I am sitting as long time viewers of Dark Horse will know
1:00.3	with Gert Vandenbaugh, who is a vaccinologist and virologist. I talked to him on Dark Horse in
1:07.7	Jesus, what month would that have been? Do you remember Gert? I think it was maybe June.
1:20.8	Yeah, that's quite possible. We talked about your hypothesis regarding the impact of the mass
1:30.9	vaccination program against COVID on the pandemic. And you said some very stark things about the
1:40.9	likely outcome. In effect, you described the likely proliferation of escape variants of the virus.
1:50.5	And you implored us to stop the program because you believed it would do more harm than good.
1:56.6	I think we before we get to your current view of the pandemic and the vaccination program,
2:02.8	let's talk about how the progress of the epidemic has matched your expectations and in what ways it
2:11.2	might have departed from them. Yeah. Well, first of all, I think what I have been predicting and what
2:19.7	was completely correct is that by doing mass vaccination during a pandemic, that was my point,
2:30.7	that we would drive the expansion, the propagation of more infectious variants. And I think
2:40.4	that evolution we have clearly seen, we have seen dominant propagation of alpha, beta, gamma,
2:47.6	delta, Omicron. I think the common denominator was that each of these dominant variants was more
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