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Witness History

Mary Fisher's 'A Whisper of Aids' speech

Witness History

BBC

History, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.41.6K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

When Mary Fisher was diagnosed with HIV in 1991 she did not represent the typical stereotype of someone HIV-positive. She was white, heterosexual and contracted the disease in marriage. She used her platform at the Republican National Convention in Texas in 1992 to try and change people's treatment of those carrying the Aids virus.

The speech was broadcast live to millions of people via the major US TV outlets. She argued that she did not want her sons, aged four and two, to face stigma from the "whisper of Aids" once she had died.

It is ranked as one of the most important speeches in the US in the 20th Century. Mary Fisher recalls the moment she delivered the speech to Josephine McDermott.

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(Photo: Mary Fisher delivers her speech in 1992. Credit: AP)

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0:00.0

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0:06.4

It was one of the deadliest days in mountaineering history.

0:09.9

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0:11.6

Huge pieces of ice.

0:12.9

All are big enough to kill you.

0:14.3

He just flew out into Devoid, and he was gone.

0:17.3

How did it all go so wrong?

0:19.2

And is it really worth risking death to feel alive? Why would

0:23.1

somebody pay to go to a place called the death zone on vacation? Extreme, peak danger. With me,

0:29.9

Natalia Melman Petrazella. Listen to the full series now. First on BBC Sounds.

0:39.0

This is the witness history podcast from the BBC World Service with me, Josephine McDermott.

0:46.8

I'm taking you back to 1992 to a speech that changed people's awareness of AIDS and HIV in the United States.

0:55.3

Mary Fisher, a mother of two young children, had recently been diagnosed with HIV.

1:00.9

I understand prejudice. I understand it. I see it. I hear it. Discrimination. All of those things.

1:07.5

I just never expected it to come to my home. And my son, he was a toddler and was in a class,

1:16.3

and each one of the children got to bring home this stuffed animal for a weekend. And Max didn't

1:22.8

get to bring it home. And I found out later why. He upset and I was upset and I thought, you know,

1:30.1

this is just ridiculous because this is not how this disease is spread. And he lost friends to

1:36.4

play with or they didn't want to come to my house.

1:40.7

We know now that human immunodeficiency virus, HIV, attacks and destroys the body's T-lymaphysites.

1:48.5

Their reduction in the body can then lead to the development of acquired immune deficiency syndrome, AIDS.

1:55.0

HIV was first reported in the US in the early 1980s.

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