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TALKING POLITICS

Mary Beard

TALKING POLITICS

Catherine Carr

News, News & Politics

4.72.5K Ratings

🗓️ 22 February 2017

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Ahead of her LRB lecture at the British Museum, we talk to Mary Beard about women in power. Why are powerful women so often called phonies? What can we learn about women and power from the ancient world? We discuss what's wrong with the idea of glass ceilings and what Hillary Clinton's treatment at the hands of Trump and his supporters really says about political misogyny. Plus Mary tells us what she thinks has gone wrong with the Labour party. On that note, we also have Helen and Chris Brooke looking ahead to this week's by-elections: who has most to lose, Corbyn or UKIP?

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, my name is David Ronserman and this is Talking Politics.

0:11.7

This week we're talking to Mary Beard about women in power. It's one of a series of conversations

0:17.0

we'll be doing over the next year in conjunction with London viewer books, talking to some

0:20.8

of their writers about some of the things that they're writing and doing with the LRB.

0:25.5

How do we think about women's intellects? How do we think they're smart? In what way can a woman

0:30.5

be clever? You know, if you go back to the ancient world people say, oh no, Gricks and Romans

0:35.8

they had a woman goddess of wisdom. No, they jolly well didn't. They had an androgen who

0:42.0

was a virgin and not even born from a woman. Was there goddess of wisdom? So there is no

0:48.2

way for women to be wise. We'll be coming to that conversation a little bit later. First

0:54.4

of all, we're going to catch up on British politics because we've neglected that a little,

0:59.1

I think, with other things going on. And this week there are two big biolections. So I've

1:04.0

got Helen, Thompson and Chris Brook here. The biolections are in Stoke on Trent and Copeland

1:09.7

in Cumbria. They are both being held as a result of the sitting MPs standing down to take

1:14.7

up other job opportunities and the jobs are sort of symbolic of these MPs, distance from

1:21.6

the Corbin project. Jamie Reed in Copeland is rejoining the nuclear industry and Tristram

1:27.2

Hunt in Stoke on Trent is leaving to become director of the V&A. I know Jamie Corbin is a big

1:33.2

fan of the arts, but I don't think the V&A is exactly his model of a socialist arts policy.

1:39.4

But that's not what this is about. It's not about who was there before. It's about who

1:43.1

might win. So we'll start with Stoke. Chris, Stoke is interesting for lots of reasons. It

1:48.6

was always an interesting seat. Tristram Hunt held it. I believe with the fewest number

1:53.1

of actual votes because very low turnout and then it was a three way split. He held

1:58.2

it for Labour and then UKIP and the Tories were pretty much neck and neck second and

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