Mary and Phyllis Date a Possible Homosexual
Gayest Episode Ever
Gayest Episode Ever
4.8 • 568 Ratings
🗓️ 15 May 2024
⏱️ 143 minutes
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Summary
"Menage a Phyllis" (November 2, 1974)
In the third-season episode "My Brother's Keeper," Rhoda famously said the word "gay," turning a plot about her association with Phyllis' brother on its head. Two seasons later, Phyllis shows up in another episode that discusses gay issues but weirdly doesn't say that word. Regardless, there's perhaps more to be made of the newsroom's opinions about what codes as gay, and Dan Steadman returns to discuss this and what we'll call the "Murray Slaughter problem."
Read Dead Buckley's 2018 piece "Queer Coding on the Mary Tyler Moore Show"
Episodes referenced:
- Dan's previous episode, "Mike Seaver Actually Said the Word 'Gay'"
- Our previous Mary Tyler Moore episode, "Mary and Rhoda Meet a Homo"
- Our episode "Phyllis Dates a Homo"
- Our episode "The Dream On Guy Has a Gay Dad"
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | You're going to make |
| 0:03.0 | You're going to make it after all. |
| 0:30.6 | Hello and welcome to gayest episode ever, the podcast where we discuss the LGBT |
| 0:34.6 | LGBT episodes of classic sitcoms. |
| 0:36.5 | I'm Drew Mackey. |
| 0:37.3 | I'm Glenn Lakin. |
| 0:38.2 | This week we are discussing the Mary Tyler Moore Show |
| 0:40.3 | and here to discuss it with us in person this time |
| 0:42.5 | is returning guest Dan Stedman. |
| 0:44.3 | Dan Hello. |
| 0:45.0 | Hello. |
| 0:45.7 | Given how your previous episode was about a Kirk Cameron-centric growing pains, |
| 0:50.8 | I think you're like angling to become our like Republican celebrity correspondent. |
| 0:56.4 | Yeah. I guess I probably could be. I mean, yeah. I mean, someone has to, I guess. But there is a |
| 1:02.7 | theme. You picked a Mary Child and War episode and we will glance over her Republicanism. |
| 1:08.6 | Oh, yeah. Okay. I was wondering where that connection was. |
| 1:11.1 | I was like, what about the marriage? |
| 1:12.3 | Yeah. |
| 1:12.7 | She got very conservative. I don't really know that about her that much. Well, we don't have to go into it in any real depth, but there was a point when Ed Asner, who was a staunch liberal his entire career, was like, yeah, I can't really talk to her anymore. Whoa. Yeah. Whoa, that's so disappointing. |
| 1:27.3 | Yeah, she she viewed the furthest right. |
| 1:29.3 | So we are doing a Patricia heat. Whoa. Yeah. Whoa, that's so disappointing. Yeah, she viewed the furthest right. |
| 1:29.3 | So we are doing a Patricia Heaton episode in the near future if you want to come back for |
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