Welcome to the Hillsdale College Online Courses podcast. I'm Jeremiah Regan.

And I'm Juan Davalos. We're back with our last episode of Marxism, Socialism, and Communism,

The Utopians, Cultural Marxism.

Yeah, so, John McMeekin, one of the scholars in this course, has a book called

Subtitled, The Rise and Fall and Rise of Communism, and you think, oh, man, this thing

just won't go away.

And in a certain sense, it hasn't.

You see discussions of socialism and communism and advocates for it in the United States today, mostly, as we've learned,

is typical of Marxists among the spoiled, college-bound children of the elites. But it still hasn't

died. Why? After centuries of horror and misery and failure, will this bad idea not go away? That's the subject of this episode.

Yeah. And, you know, when we were getting ready to launch this course, I remember we were discussing on how we talk about it. And one of the lines that we were talking about was saying that communism

is actually most more popular than ever. And we looked into it a little bit and did some research.

And yes, its popularity is actually very, very big right now. And you wonder, like, how is that

possible? In the last episode, we just covered all the failures, and everywhere that

communism spreads, it's a failure. You know, Yugoslavia, China, and then we look at more recently

places like Venezuela. It just destroys societies, and it continues to be popular, and we need

to understand why. One of the things it does is kind of changes form.

Strict Marxists who are talking about economic classes still exist.

I mean, we got Bernie Sanders, who is still in the United States Senate talking about these things.

But the focus of Marxist ideology has taken on new aspects.

We look at Marxist thought in relations between the races.

When we look at human sexuality and gender studies, when we look at age, ability, disability,

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