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In today's episode of History of Ideas,

David discusses Karl Marx and Friedrich Engel's Communist Manifesto.

It was written in 1848 the year of revolution, but that wasn't the revolution they were after.

They wanted something much bigger.

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So far in these talks, I haven't said much about the economic side of modern political life, all those economic relationships that coexist

with the political relationships I have been talking about. And the authors that I've discussed so far

all had quite a lot to say about what we would now call economics in different ways.

They had different interests.

Hobbs, for instance, was very interested in money and how it worked and he was absolutely adamant that the power of the sovereign state

as well as determining what counted as peace also had to determine what counted as money. The sovereign had to say what money was.

And so it's possible if Hobbs were alive now and he was looking at our world,

who knows what he would think. I can't quite imagine.

He probably would think he was right. And he told us if he got our state sorted, we would be so

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