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Well, Miranda Devine, the great columnist. You can read her columns in the New York Post. The best-selling author. Make sure you have her latest book, The Big Guy.

Joe Biden, it's a great book, The Big Guy.

And she's now a podcast superstar, does this great podcast called Pod Force One.

Lots of Donald Trump on there.

In fact, check the latest episode with Donald Trump as the guest, the Scott Bessent one. They're all phenomenal. It's Pod Force One, wherever you get your podcast, Miranda

Devine's new podcast. Miranda Devine, how you doing?

I'm really well, thanks, Mark. Very kind of you.

Well, besides all the news, you seem to open up a person and get to the real them and

the Trump stuff, especially talking about Scotland and all of that, was fascinating. Tell us about that.

Yes, he was really very, that was the second interview I've done for Pod Force one, the first one

being at the White House a couple of months ago.

And this time he was very relaxed.

He was in an environment that he's comfortable in, his absolutely beautiful golf resort there on the west coast of Scotland looking out over the Irish Sea called Turnbury.

And he got a lot of golf games in but at the same time he was

having world leaders come to him he was hosting state visits inside the inside Scotland

for the leader of the UK Kyrs Stama the Prime Minister and for the leader of the

European Union or European Commission,

Ursula Vandaladen, and he got them eating out of his hand, basically.

And with Ursula Vandaladen, he managed to, or Vondeladen, I think it is,

he managed to get a trade deal, which he says, and it's true it is, the biggest trade deal ever done.

In fact, he says it's the biggest deal ever done for 15% tariffs and the EU basically buying three quarters of a trillion dollars worth of energy products from America.

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