It's Mark Simone, Mr. New York, on 710 W.O.R.

Well, Howie Car, one of the great talk show hosts in America and bestselling author.

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Howie Carr?

How you doing?

Very good.

Very good.

They're having a big celebration in Boston tomorrow for Mike Dukakis, believe it or not.

I thought we had the celebration the day he left office back in 1991.

But I guess I guess this is a, you know, a retrospective on that marvelous day.

I hate to ask.

Mike DeCoccus is still with us, right?

90 years old.

Wow.

Ninety years old.

Yeah, he's been, he's been a, he retired at the age of 57 due to ill health. The voters got sick of it. Very sick of it. Well, he ran for president, and he was like the, uh, Ron DeSantis as a, that kind of campaign skill, that kind of personality out there. It was same problem. He kind of didn't connect. Yeah, I mean, I think he blew, you know, I think he blew it a lot worse than Ron DeSantis. I mean, he could have won, but I mean, he just, he won the Democrat nomination and then took like three weeks off, didn't do anything because he thought it was Massachusetts. And he had the, he had everything won because he had the democrat nomination boy did

boy did he get a wrong number willie horton and all that you know which you know what that

was that was al gore's thing willie horton you know the yeah he introduced it in the new york

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