We're joined by a guy, local guy, good hitter, good player, great personality, uh, Jersey kid

locally, and you see him all the tube all the time. We were just talking shop for them.

As soon as he walked in, he lit up the whole room, Mark the Rosa.

Mark, what's going on, no, no, no, here love it. Where do you cock and load? I'm like, oh, I promise that I'd say cock and load.

That I can promise you. That was not said.

No, jumping off that, I didn't learn how to truly hit, like, understand walking to the plate and saying I can compete until I was 30 years old.

Really? No doubt.

Okay, so how did you learn? 30 years old. Really? No doubt.

Okay, so how did you learn?

What was the final threshold?

Chipper Jones was the one who truly, like, walked me through what he was thinking and what good hitter should be thinking.

And then when I went over to Texas, I got with this guy, Rudy Haramillo, who was just a hitting coach to the stars at the time.

And he taught me how to load.

Really?

See, it's not a dumb question.

And then I called Chipper.

I said, all that stuff you used to tell me.

Now it's starting to make sense.

But I got a question.

So you were a star at U-Pen, great school.

New Jersey Hall of Fame, right?

There we go yeah the other night You and Greg Olson right yeah not the pitcher the tight-in I appreciate a lot of a lot of I think a lot of the mental

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