Welcome listeners to another episode of the editor's desk, the First Think podcast where we speak with authors of material in First Things magazine, which if you are not

subscribing, you really, really have to, all the cool kids read First Things.

And I have with me today, Mark Bowery, my colleague.

And we want to talk about his review of the Summer of Theory,

history of a Rebellion, 1960 to 1990 by Philippe Flech Flesch, and recently translated from German.

And so welcome, Mark. I'm glad to join you, Rusty. This is a subject near and dear

to my youth, actually, or maybe my 20s. I had to put it that way. And that that was, I'm glad that

that Dan Hitchens asked me to take a look at this book because it took me back to my own grad school days.

Maybe it went back to your grad school days as well.

No, I was a theology, not lit.

It's a great title.

No, but didn't think.

Play on Summer of Love, isn't that?

It's really a fun title.

Rossi, didn't theory hit religion studies in the 80s?

No.

I mean, it did in, but not in my program.

So I remember, of course, Yale's Complit Department was, you know,

I pulled a man, so it was all, so it was certainly in the air. And I went to one of Jacques Derrida's seminars.

And, yeah, because he was on some sort of contract and he would come to Yale for a couple of weeks every year.

So yes, it was, and I did take a class with Cornell West at Union Theological Seminary

as when I was in between college and grad school, and we read Foucault and Derry Dahn, those sorts of things.

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