Marina Ciavatta: Going after the human error. [Social engineer] [Career Notes]

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🗓️ 31 August 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Please enjoy this encore of Career Notes. Social engineer and CEO of Hekate, Marina Ciavatta, shares her story of how people think her job is a la Mission Impossible coming from the ceiling with a rope and stealing stuff in the dead of the night. Marina does physical pentesting. Starting with an unused degree in journalism, Marina turned her talent for writing into a job as a content producer for a technology company and this appealed to her self-proclaimed nerdism. She fell in love with hacking and got into pentesting thanks to a friend. Marina recommends those interested in physical pentesting "try to find other social engineers to mingle. It's in the name. We are social creatures." We thank Marina for sharing her story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	You're listening to the Cyberwire Network, powered by N2K.
0:12.0	Investigating is hard enough. Your tools shouldn't make it harder.
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0:53.8	Hi, I'm Marina Chavada. I'm from Brazil and I'm a social engineer and CEO of Hackety Inc.
1:05.0	Most people think I'm 007.
1:12.9	You know, just like Mission Impossible, I'm coming from the ceiling with a rope and stealing
1:19.3	stuff in the dead of the night.
1:22.0	But it's not...
1:26.9	I want to be so many things.
1:28.6	Astronaut, you know, the good old, I want to be an astronaut when you're a little
1:33.0	kid.
1:33.3	I wanted to be a writer for a very long time.
1:37.0	And because of that, I kind of steered my way into journalism, my first degree.
1:42.2	So very far away from where I am today.
1:46.9	I didn't even went to get my diploma.
1:50.7	I still don't have the diploma.
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